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Tuesday
Sep272011

Why is the large project workflow broken?

We along with so many others are forced to occasionally break out our largest projects into separate files.  Either because of amount of team members (more than 5 and the file slows down) or the file size (x64 can only do so much for you).  So the breaking into separate files has been the recommended workflow for as long as I can remember.  So why is it so broken?  Let’s take doors for example:

1. Filter by Level

Our projects have hundreds to thousands of doors, therefore it is impossible to have one door schedule to fit on a sheet but numerous door schedules which spans multiple sheets.  So the logical thought is to break by level through filters but this is not an option when I enable “Include Elements in Linked Files”.  Even if I started the linked file from the active and it is exactly the same level.  This seems ridiculous and makes one second guess the accuracy of reporting from multiple files.  To resolve this we have two options.  One is to hope that the door numbers start with the level number. i.e. Door 101A is on the 1st level.  Then you can filter by the number begins with option.  If not, you must rely on a method of manually entering a shared parameter in both files but what happens when someone makes a mistake on data entry or misses one?

2. Keys from Key Schedules Disabled

We use Key Schedules to control numerous aspects of the door schedule.  Key Schedules are great since it helps provide more consistency to a project or the office.  So why when I enable “Include Elements in Linked Files” does it disable my ability to select the keys in the active file?  I need to either go to the door or have an additional duplicate schedule to make my changes that does not include the linked files.

3. To/From Room Disabled

This has finally been fixed in 2012 but the tagging rooms and room functionality for links has been broken since the beginning.  I am pleased to see this finally but wonder why it took so long?  I would love to see a release of Revit that fully focused on legacy issues that have driven everyone nuts for years and years.

Unless there is a change that will magically allow us to have one file, just fix it!  I understand the desire to expand the options and future functionality but we have not forgotten the legacy broken tools and workflows.  I hate to be training someone and be asked why this or that does not work because I can only respond with “We have told them but nothing has ever been done.  It has always been that way and may stay that way.  I guess we just need to deal with it.”

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Reader Comments (1)

Large project workflows definitely take extra workarounds to make them work. Lots of times our projects will be 4+ models, but large projects +1,000,000sf the model count starts going up exponentially.

Schedule start to take time if you need to adjust consistently from model to model. Often we get them so filtered that we cannot copy from project to project, so we end up going into each schedule to make the necessary changes.

10 models + 10 schedule changes = 10 x the hours and 10x the chance for mistakes

You also mention rooms, but we still have issues with trying to schedule items (equipment mostly) with linked files (FFE items in the linked models). Even with the 2012 version, you still have to place rooms in the linked file for them to schedule correctly. We have tried the Room object to Space Object workaround, but this limits the amount of data you can report (Room Name and Room Number). So we are relegated to keeping multi models updated with the same room data.

Because you have to open each model for either of the above issues, this often takes time due to model size. We try to keep most of our models under 250mb to help with performance, but it is still takes extra time to make consistent changes between models.

September 28, 2011 at 12:53PM | Unregistered Commentertucker_arch
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